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Poster: stratocaster Date: Feb 14, 2013 1:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What if: Bobby had died instead of Jerry?

forget who said this, but the quote is something like this, "the only ones in the Dead who could really play was Garcia, Lesh and Billy K., when they were cooking the Dead was on, the rest of the band was just going along for the ride..."

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 14, 2013 2:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What if: Bobby had died instead of Jerry?

There is no doubt about that; I've said that many a time...

Right? I probably don't give Billy enough credit (I put him at a distant, but important third; citing Garcia's solo album as good evidence).

Sorry, Bob fans!

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Feb 14, 2013 2:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What if: Bobby had died instead of Jerry?

I believe that Butch Trucks was the author of that horse shit quote Strat and he did not specify an era when making the comment.To my ear the more challenging part of the bands catalog between 10/19/71 and 10/20/74 was dependent on all five musicians equally,the resultant music was a genuine group effort.

While I can't really speak for what a 1995 -> whenever grouping of Jer,Phil and Billy would have sounded like I surely would have enjoyed hearing them give it a shot,at it's worst it could not be as embarrassing as Furthur.

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Feb 14, 2013 6:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What if: Bobby had died instead of Jerry?

maybe Trucks, Pig Street mentioned the Alman's, sounds familiar...

I don't agree with this in entirety, although Garcia, Lesh and BK are the core...however Weir's playing style with the interplay and riffing and unorthodox chording is critical to the formation of their trademark sound...Godcheaux and Mydland both had moments of greatness...

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Poster: user unknown Date: Feb 14, 2013 5:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What if: Bobby had died instead of Jerry?

As great as both Jerry and Phil were/are, Grateful Dead was definitely greater than the sum of their parts.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Feb 14, 2013 6:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What if: Bobby had died instead of Jerry?

Jerry's guitar was no doubt the lead instrument,but I think a case could made for all the other players being unorthodox and interacting in a somewhat unorthodox manner musically creating a unique type of music.Lesh and Billy certainly were not sitting back in the pocket like a normal rhythm section,Keith's style of accenting and fills was unusual and Weir is singular in style.Also Jerry's style of leading the music was very group oriented and was based on what the other guys were playing a good deal of the time.Once again I am talking about Dark Star,Other One,the more jam oriented material from Keith's introduction through74',the rest of their catalog and other era's are a different story.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Feb 14, 2013 2:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What if: Bobby had died instead of Jerry?

If they were referring to 65-69, they might have a point. IMHO, Bob's playing improved immensely in a few short years... clearly improved by 71-72. If you ever tried to play "Bob" guitar parts, it ain't easy. You can fault him for occasional bad taste or lounge lizard vocals, but his guitar fills are still unique and his fretboard knowledge is encyclopedic. For me, his most important roles in the band were to spell Jerry on vocals and shift the direction of a show back into high gear, in addition to playing a second lead line. Since Jerry was a lazy songwriter, Weir song contributions can't be overlooked either.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Feb 14, 2013 5:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What if: Bobby had died instead of Jerry?

Since Jerry was a lazy songwriter, Weir song contributions can't be overlooked either.

In what way was Jerry a lazy songwriter. I don't think I've heard that one before.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 15, 2013 10:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What if: Bobby had died instead of Jerry?

Jerry was a lazy songwriter

What?

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